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  • Hello Hans, welcome to the Wiki.
    Alabama State Flag Proposal New Stars and Bars with C o A Designed By Stephen Richard Barlow 16 NOV 2014 at 0931 hrs cst

    Alabama State Flag Proposal New Stars and Bars with State CoA and 22star Constellation Designed By: Stephen Richard Barlow 16 NOV 2014 at 0931 HRS CST

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  • I like what you have been doing to the wiki.  It is easer to navigate around.  Thank you.

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  • Thank you very much for the clean ups! Keep your great work. Cheers.

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    • You are welcome. Don't know if "cleanup" is the best word for it, since it is mostly rather substantial rewrites.

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  • TyA

    Yo, I've edited the pages as requested on the VSTF Wiki. Sorry it took so long, it kinda slipped between the cracks. I noticed the Fileuploadsummary page actually does use Wikitext. I assume the Oasis-upload-photos-caption one does too then, but I do not know where that message is used. If that one actually does use html, please let me know on this message and I'll change it for you.

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  • Hans, I was looking at Mass. site and note that it said Maine was the only other state that had a Naval Ensign.  I thought the state of South Carolina had one as well, it dosn't have a Naval Ensign anymore?  

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  • Hans,


    Of all th eflags that i have come across from Illinois, by far yours is my favorite. Is there a way you could upload a version that is much bigger in resolution? It is quite small and I am making a presentation for redesigning the American state flags. I will obviously credit your work. Also, as an observation, there are no US flags that use points to represent their number in admittance to the union. Maybe a single start in the blue middle bar would be a different alternative? So far other states have a single star (Texas, NC) and they still maintain a distinctive look.  I feel your design is distinct enough that a single star would make it unique. Overall, amazing work!

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    • US-IL flag proposal Hans 1 (modified)

      This is what the flag looks like with a single star. I've enlarged the original as well.

      Representing numbers with star points does happen in current flags, but usually with a single star; e.g. Australia's seven-pointed commonwealth star. I don't know of any current flags that include multiple stars with a certain total number of points, but among proposals it is not unique to my Illinois flag (see e.g. my first proposal for Mexico or FlagFreak's Illinois flag).

      I think using four stars with twenty points total is a lot better than using twenty stars, though I also understand people who question the need to symbolize states' order of admission at all. Ben Karnell, who featured my design on his website, proposes Illinois' five historical statuses as alternative symbolism for the stars.

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    • Thnks for thr upload, Ben Karnell picked many of the same designs as the best new state flag designs. I agree too many stars makes make bad vexillology, and save for some that are so iconic (RI, AK and the VT Green Mountain Rep Flag) they should be replaced. Indian's flag w.o the name would make a busy yet still icoic design, yet the Clark flag seems a good alternative. The US National Flag I dare not change it, though it is too busy. Thoughts on a new New York flag? Thanks again!

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    • Though my personal picks are quite different, Ben has made a nice list indeed.

      Of course Alaska's eight stars is not nearly as many as the Illinois centennial flag's twenty-one or the Stars and Stripes' fifty. I do think each of your three bracketed examples could be improved in other aspects. I may have a different understanding of iconicity, but I think Indiana's current flag needs a bigger change than just removing the name for it to be a truly good flag. While the Clark flag is simple enough, the unfimbriated combination of green and red doesn't seem great aesthetically. I'm now creating some proposals that combine the two.

      Regarding NY redesigns, I haven't come up with anything better than the ones I've uploaded yet. There are many good proposals by others, though; I particularly like Marmocet's and Tibbetts's.

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    • To add to this discussion: yes, Hans's flag with 4 small stars surrounding one big one is my favorite by far for my home state. And yes, I prefer my re-interpretation of the symbols to his original; I would prefer that the stars represent Illinois's history going back to the 1600s. That said, it's not uncommon for states to use their "number" as an identifying symbol. Illinois's own state quarter says "21st State and Century", for example. Turning back to flags, Oklahoma's original flag was just a star with the number "46" inside it.

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  • Good day, Hans.

    TechMountenDew wanted to use
    US-GA flag proposal Hans 1
    the flag on the right for his Alternate History timeline, but wanted me to ask for permission from you first.

    Your response?

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  • I made a page and would like to know if I can start. Middle East Flag Competition - Vexillology Wiki - Wikia

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    • I don't, but was there a reason you asked if I was online?

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    • I was going to talk to you more about the contest on chat so it can be quicker 

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  • Hi, I'm sending this message to you because I just posted here a proposed flag for Santa Catarina that is based on one of yours proposals. I put some credit for you, but with you wanted I can exclude it.  Thanks

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